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Old 7th December 2008, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by vinylweatherman View Post
Seems there are, has Artico had his "free shot" yet? His case seems similar, although he admits to staking 150 credits per hand at blackjack, winning, and then switching to lower stakes of the order of 10 credits to complete WR.
This is certainly an aggressive opening, but bonus abuse?
Please do not use the term 'bonus abuse'. It has no meaning, and gives legitimacy to casinos that operate as follows:

accept bets from 10 aggressive players: 9 bust out their deposit, and accept their fate, the 10th wins but gets dubbed 'bonus abuser'. Result: the casino gets to keep everyone's money.

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Full playlogs will answer these points, and getting the playlogs for a "bonus abuser" will show on a case by case basis what is being considered "evidence of bonus abuse" by the Casino.
Who cares? We shouldn't even indulge them by suggesting that such a thing can be subjectively determined. 'Bonus abuse' is meaningless. If players want to play any strategy they like, let them, or ban it up front. If you don't want big bets, reduce the maximum wager, and if this is lower than the normal level, explain this upfront.

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There is a suggestion also that Floyd has mislead the forum by giving the impression it is only around 5 players that have had such action taken, but from the inept generosity of the SUB, and the posted playing styles from a couple of those caught, I find this small number very hard to believe.
'Caught' is probably not the best verb to use.

They have done nothing wrong. If players want to bet their whole balance on pai gow or whatever, that's their choice (providing it's not banned as a game). If it means the casino determines as a result that these players are not profitable, then they simply add them to their 'no reload bonuses' list.

No gambling establishment can operate a 'losers only' policy.

There are three ways to handle this:

* reduce the bonus amount
* change the rules so there's no profit to be made
* don't offer a bonus

No way else, let us please not even discuss what bonus abuse is. If a casino's terms say 'all games beside slots are banned, and if you play other games, you forfeit your winnings' then the decision would be 'the player broke the rules by playing slots'. Or if the player abuses the bonus by setting up two accounts, then the reason for non-payment would be multiple accounts. But bonus abuse, never ever.
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