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Originally Posted by Roar
Praytech can you give us a little more detail on the extent of your complaint beyond a particularly bad payout percentage?
For instance, which games did you play and in what manner did you play? I could lose over 10% of bets made on BJ if I hit every time I got dealt a 20 count.
I am more than cautious about MG slots over a week end period. Won't go near them from Friday night onwards.
I agree with the hollow nature of the audits on which casinos seek to rely to prove "game fairness". Totally inadequate. Laughable crap. In MG's case they don't even bother to break each individual game return down let alone a myriad of other audting indice that never rate the merest mention.
Anyway let us in on a little more detail of your quite horrendous experience on the punt if you want to. |
All in all, with various online casinos, i have wagered over $4m in around a year, all on slots. I don't play
bj or roulette or anything. I think my total deposits at all casinos are about $30k in that period.
Although I don't play there anymore, my best experience was Casino Tropez in both bonuses and wins (and, conversley, payout ratio). I withdrew around $16k from them a while back. Cost me maybe $4k.
My worst experience is definitely King Solomons. Incidentally this is a Playtech casino, not an
RTG casino or microgaming.
My total deposits were over $8,000 in just under a month. With that $8,000, plus bonuses of 72% (a further $5,000 or so) I only managed to wager around $180k in total. My average bet was $1.35-$5 per spin (although at times i went as high as $10 to $20 over short periods).
I played just about every game there, and I think it was only diamond valley that had a half decent win ($1,000 on one ocassion). The highest my account EVER reached (with NO cashouts at all) was around $1,200. Take into account that this is AFTER depositing around $400, and going down to almost nothing.
What should have given it away is my high bonuses, the 15% cashback I got (which was lost in about an hour of play) and of course, the constant lack of wins. I should have really twigged when I noticed that i would get a half decent win (maybe $300 or so) then lose twice that again in about a quarter of the time.
Conversations I had with staff were always 'oh well, you will get lucky soon' and 'it's just luck' and so forth, but I really started losing faith in this casino when I had gone through $8k without a decent lookin. As I said, one rep told me that I would get a bonus because my payout ratio was so low, however that bonus of 300 did not get one single win. In a later conversation that I have posted in part here, the rep tells me my ratio is 97%, which is absolutely impossible when you look at how much I have wagered compared to how much I have deposited. I worked it out (after monitoring all spins, wins and losses over a week) to be around 75% payout ratio... in my mind, that is pretty much a scam. I may as well just pay them 25% of all my intended deposits and play in the play money casino!
Just to bring this into perspective:
Casino Tropez
Total Deposits $4000
Total Wagered $1.2million
Cashouts $16000
32Red
Total Deposits $7000
Total Wagered $800,000
Cashouts $0
Another Casino (Don't want to name as they read these posts!)
Total Deposits $5000
Total Wagered $1.8million
Cashouts $2,000
And Finally King Solomons
Total Deposits $8000
Total Wagered $180,000
Cashouts $0
You can clearly see the total wagered amount is well below par. I don't know, maybe I have just been very lucky at other casinos, or maybe the payout figure is really bad... any opinions? Does anyone know what IS going on here?