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Old 11th May 2008, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GrandAcesGeisha View Post
As previously stated Vinyl - your posts read rather prosaicly and your opinions that are scattered through the posts are often not correct



The above is so laughable its not even funny. You’re telling us that we could not recognize an account opened by ourselves for Bonus purposes. Or are you saying that we are doing this maliciously - just in case an account is opened up in the future



Again you know the above and can back it up with facts and figures can you? I would personally want players from the United States back for a number of reasons .
They enjoyed their gambling and probably realize that there is no guarantee of you having to win despite the amount of money you put into a machine, so from a canny point of view yes you are probably correct – they are a lot more educated about gambling than a lot of other nations.

By the way Windows Casino now has its Malta License and they don’t dole those out to any Tom Dick and Harry.

Oh and Vinyl there is an easy way not to have to worry about bonus issues – don’t take em and you wont have to worry.
Laughable, no - there have been a number of complaints where players have had winnings confiscated due to some obscure account from many years ago that they have no recollection of. Often, the casino has changed names, and platforms, since the player opened the original account, and they open a new account at what they believe to be a new casino, only to have "duplicate account" thrown at them when they win. No doubt, a casino group can track how an old account came about, but so many choose to use this unfortunate circumstance to screw over a hapless player, rather than see it was an unintentional mistake. This is not to say that King Solomons or Windows would use this excuse (certainly not with a Maltese licence), it is just that many do, and it is all trust in this largely unregulated business.

As for Brits being so much more "canny", is this just opinion, or can you prove this with facts and figures, and show that it is necessary for Brits to have 50x WR, where Spaniards have 8x or 15x - such a HUGE difference, and on slots bonuses too - how do you play "canny" on your SLOT games, double up on 4 Soft Cherries


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Oh and Vinyl there is an easy way not to have to worry about bonus issues – don’t take em and you wont have to worry
Quite, and if I don't like the terms, I don't take the offer - which is why I ignore all those "Windows Gazzette" offers However, if there are bonuses and promotions on offer elsewhere, I will play these before considering play without claiming bonuses, simply because such promotions offer better value.
Having to wager £1250 for a £5 Non-cashable bonus at Windows casino is a joke, and I did not even claim that bonus, it was planted by the software, and replaced a better bonus offered in a mailer, which although still 50x WR, was at least 100% and not 10%

The issue with bonuses is that the casinos are based around this model, and game payouts are lower than they might be otherwise because the casino has to factor in the additional value to players of the bonus offers. If I play at a casino offering generous bonuses, but am excluded partly or wholly from the generosity, then I am at a disadvantage. For play without any prospect of bonuses, there are the growing breed of "Zero Lounge" casinos, so why play anywhere else in such circumstances.


The main "roguish" issue surrounding your group has nothing to do with bonuses, it is about the opening of new casino accounts with your recently aquired casinos on behalf of players at the old Wager Junction casinos, and then telling them it has already been done and has a free chip sitting there for them. Players could be INVITED to open an account with a special bonus, but they should at least be given the chance to do the opening themselves, or not, as the case may be.
Every time a player has an unwanted Wager Junction account opened for them by your marketing team, there is the risk they will sound off here about it, and probably as a complaint - this is what has been happening so far. Each time someone makes this type of complaint, it is another morsel of negative publicity, and this is how a casino can slowly move from being seen as good, to being seen as "bad", often with the operator not even noticing.

There was the same trouble with other groups opening Payspark accounts on behalf of players without asking first - this created quite a stink, and for the same reason, the fact it was done without asking the player if they wanted it done. The need to accept such accounts by "activation" does not make it a lesser act, the perceived, if not actual, damage has been done to the bond of trust.
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