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Old 10th April 2008, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bwin View Post
hi

regarding excluding roulette for meeting wagering requirements:

some casino software allows the player to bet on black and red or odd and even at the same time (aka "even chance wagering" - it is also allowed in most brick and mortar casinos) - so on an European Roulette table you can easily wager a lot of money without running at high risk (the odds to hit a 0 are only ~2,7%) - this in combination with comp points or something similar can end up in a house advantage lower then zero (that's why it works for brick and mortar casinos - they don't have any form of cash back in form of comp points). so it is quite obvious that they as an operator therefore have to exclude Roulette, otherwise they would lose serious money.

I hope this explains the "why" to you :-)

best regards

Benjamin
This might explain the exclusion from WR, but NOT the voiding of winnings when playing Roulette "properly" with it's 2.7% House edge. To get 100 to 5000 involves aggressive betting on single number spreads.
Even with the game included for WR, the 2.7% house edge will ensure that WR cannot be met before all the bankroll has gone, although it might be possible to beat this certainty by trying a combination strategy involving making few, and very large, even bets (red & black) and hoping zero never shows before WR is complete. because this is a PLAY bonus (non cashable), this would not work on it's own, but would have to begin with a single whole bankroll bet on one colour, or even a field 12 numbers. This will work if the player goes through a number of casinos, half will be busts, but the other half will yield wins enough for an overall profit.

The strategy can be done with Blackjack, provided there is no term restricting big bets, and is similar, one starting bet with whole bankroll, then grinding out WR with many small bets. Only TWO blackjack games are excluded, normal Blackjack only has a weighting, so this could well be within the T & C, but STILL they wouldn't have paid, as they also have the "F U Clause", and would then deny winnings this way.

The best way is to play their slots aggressively, and hope for a decent win, then reduce bets to a minimum and grind out on other slots. Playtech slots tend to be low variance, so a big stake is needed to get a big win, but you are likely to survive the grind after this.

The 5 and 9 line slots seem best for getting the big win, and the video slots, such as Dr Love, great for the grind with the autoplay.

For a 100 bankroll, try 5 or 10 per spin into the likes of Highway Kings or Silver Bullet, or even Golden Tour (5 lines). If you hit a big win, 100 to 200+, you can switch to Dr Love and grind out at 0.20 or 0.40 per spin.
They would have quite a job voiding winnings from slots play, even with an FU clause, and would be considered rogue even for suggesting that one can "abuse" a bonus by playing slots (even though you can at a pinch ).
Do NOT try this in GBP though, unless UK Resident, as they will get you on that, rather than "abusive" slots play.
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