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Old 24th January 2008, 07:19 AM
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I've always been amused by the stunning contradiction between what the casinos claim is the "spirit of the bonus offer" namely something along the lines of "for entertainment and to prolong the gaming experience" and what by it's very nature it is to read and fully comprehend the promotional and general terms and conditions.

Although Belle Rock does not directly state in it's terms that the purpose of it's bonuses is for entertainment and to prolong the gaming experience thus attracting loyal customers, I am assuming that they would agree with those commonly given reasons as also being their own.

So if the purpose of the bonus offer is for entertainment and prolonging the gaming experience in an effort to attract loyal customers then why would you require of them an excercise that would likely only be entertaining to lawyers and bonus seekers who are "entertained" chiefly by monetary profit?

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1.1.7. You hereby authorize us and our designated agents in rem suam, as and when we require, to confirm your identity and your right to use the monies that you wager at the Casino. - From the River Belle General Terms
Rem Suam? I don't know what that means because I'm not fluent in Latin.

I wonder what percentage of customers who checked the "I have read the Terms and Conditions" box comprehended the phrase rem suam at the time they checked it. I would venture to guess the number is close to zero.

That would immediatley put all of those players in violation of term 1.2.1.8 which acknowledges that they player has,

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...read and understood these Terms and Conditions.
But even though almost all players freely violate that term it doesn't threaten the validity of the contract because as term 8.3 discusses,

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If any part of these Terms and Conditions is deemed unlawful, void or for any reason unenforceable, then that part shall be deemed to be severable from the rest of these Terms and Conditions and shall not affect the validity and enforceability of the remaining provisions of these Terms and Conditions. In such cases, the part deemed invalid or unenforceable shall be amended in a manner consistent with applicable law to reflect, as closely as possible, our original intent.
And they intend to enjoy immunity from all liabilites no matter what the cause.

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4.2. In no circumstances whatsoever shall the Casino, its directors, officers, employees, shareholders, agents and affiliates, the ultimate parent and parent companies of the Casino and any of its subsidiaries be liable to you in contract, tort, negligence or otherwise, for any loss or damage howsoever arising from any cause whatsoever, whether direct or indirect, or for any amounts whatsoever (even where we have been notified by you of the possibility of such loss or damage).
They also retain the power to,

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refuse to register you as a Player or elect to deregister and exclude you or suspend you as a Player from the Casino at any time and for any reason whatsoever.
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1.4.1.1. withhold payment to you of any contested funds whether such contested funds are deposits, refunds, bonuses, free monies, casino credits, payouts or the like.
And if they see fit,

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1.4.1.4.2 have forfeited to us any contested funds that may be derived by you from fraudulent, illegal or similar misconduct.
How are the terms "fraudulent", "illegal" and "similar misconduct" defined?

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8.10. Applicable Law & Jurisdiction

The validity, construction and performance of this Agreement shall be governed by Gibraltarian law and shall be subject to the non-exclusive jurisdiction of the Gibraltarian superior courts to which the parties hereby submit, except that a Party may seek an interim injunction in any court of competent jurisdiction.
I'm sure most weekend sign ups will find thrilling and challenging the necessary task of aquainting themselves with Gibraltarian law in order to comply with term 1.2.1.8.

On and on it goes with one FU clause bested by the next, leaving the player to fend for themselves in a maze of legalease designed to lose anyone who dares to enter. And for a casino rep to invoke the General Terms and Conditions, particularly ones written in this kind of anti-player rights tone, as a substitute for a properly designed bonus claim system and as an excuse for extra judicial confiscation of money is essentially a non-argument. IMO by resorting to the invocation of the out-of-the-way General Terms and Conditions the player rep is essentially conceding the following:

The only obvious conclusion after having read the unaddressed points by Vinylweatherman and others is that Belle Rock doesn't like a certain class of customers and has decided to design a system by which they can profit in monetary terms from those customer's exclusion from their casinos.

I am stating that I think bell rock conciously and intentionally sat down and designed this system with the goals of

1) Trapping those who abuse bonuses and generating a large edge for the casino by "freerolling" with the the players' funds

2) Attempting to use this tactic to discourage other similar players from taking advantage of their promotions.
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