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Originally Posted by lojo
There's been so much drama and diversion in this thread I haven't been able to keep a train of thought long enough to contribute, but here's what I see today:
Prime made a mistake, admitted it, remedied it, and have changed their policy. What else is to discuss about them?
Were I a casino manager, I would not tie my own hands in regards to 'reverse chargebacks' by explicit T&C. Nothing but a weakness to exploit.
Of course in a perfect world all transactions would be audited perfectly, but it's not a perfect world. There is a level of trust in any business arrangement.
Prime probably has no special arrangement with NT, any casino can do this if Prime can. The problem is with NeTeller and as others have mentioned, that is where the players' focus should be to affect any real change in security.
The other two topics should have their own threads or be lain to rest, imo.
edit: just saw another thread... not what i meant pg, Jens should pab and it all should be laid to rest imo. |
The above post says it all.
I've been keeping an eye on this thread, though not reading ALL of ALL the posts as many resemble War & Peace and do my head in, but I've got the gist of what's being said.
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Originally Posted by vinylweatherman
4. Jens...
This leaves as the ONLY justification for voiding Jens' winnings the fact that she withdrew before completing the full WR in the mistaken belief that EZBonus works the same in every casino, allowing this to blind her to the possibility that some casinos may intend otherwise.
It is clear that Jens is an "advantage player", and not a player the casino would want to offer future bonuses to, but on the other hand, there is no obligation on players to lose with their SUB, they have every right to try their best to beat the house within the rules of the game. |
As a self confessed bonus hunter of 6-years standing and nearly daily player of online casinos I tend to side with the players in any disputes, but I deplore the type of play Jens did.
OK, you can argue until you're blue in the face that placing all your money on one bet in not against the T&C's, but come on, it's not 'normal' casino play or using the bonus in the spirit it was given. I fully support the casino's right to withhold bonus/winnings in these cases. I also have very little sympathy for players who do not take the time to read the T&C's before they deposit, and NO sympathy if said player is intending to 'abuse' the bonus.
I would not mind betting that it's because too many players were taking advantage of MG's 'Flexi-Bonus' in a similar way which has led to most MG's now saying you have to complete the full
WR.
I think this is called biting the hand that feeds you.
Quoting Lojo again:-
The other two topics should have their own threads or be lain to rest, imo.
If these other two topics do not have their own threads started then I also call on
CM to lock this one.
This thread was about a casino removing money from Neteller without the player's consent (a very big issue in my eyes) but has been totally de-railed into unrelated discussions and mindless personal attacks.
Just my 2c
KK