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Old 5th May 2006, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dovmin
I want to share my thoery of what happened with the English harbour group let me know what you all think.


Theory number one, I got response from my mathematician friend and he had to say and he is right. The chance of that kind of result happening is possible but the chance that this kind of result is happening exactly when this guy tested them is zero.

They absolutely cheated, you might say it was not deliberately but I doubt it.

Theory number 2: I see in their terms and condition that many games are excluded for bonuses.

I bet that many bonus whoring players came there and use the doubling figure to maximize their winnings building their balance up and only then play the games which carry a high house edge.

The casino understood they need to fix their doubling figure to eliminate that and that what he did.

I played there and I can say that according to my feeling only no calculations two games are rigged there.

One, their Roulette and second the doubling at any Videopoker.

I remember casino bar response to the Wizard of odds issue, I remember they mentioned the fact there is a lot of bonus abuse in the industry and this is very hard to manage a casino anyway. Casinobar implied that of the line that they cheated to overcome the bonus abusers and I believe this is the reason a casino want to cheat.

They don't need to cheat in order to win without bonuses.

They need the cheating figure to cope with the chargebacker and Bonus abuser.
I am not sure about the roulette. You present nothing to back this up, not even anecdotal 'evidence'.

However it does make some sense if you perceive that many players are making money from your bonus to attacke the game those players (whose business you do not want) will play. In that sense if I were operating a casino and wanted to attack the nonprofitable bonus players (given that other players are profitable because all casino games will offer a casino edge), I would fix the odds the game perceived most attractive by such players. As the expected loss on a video poker double is zero, this game is likely to be preferred by bonus-oriented players.

It is difficult to see how this has happened. It is clear that the game was not behaving fairly, and that the chance the game was fair is basically zero. The fact is that it appears the game suddenly now is playing fair where it wasn't before while the casino have said that the results were fair, even though that is statistically essentially impossible. I think there is only one conclusion that can be drawn from this evident change and early denial; the problem is for EH with logs available and being analysed, I believe that it will be extremely difficult for them to reconcile evidence showing bad odds changing to fair odds with the initial statement that effectively denied that they had changed anything