Assisting players is something that I do. Not so much from the kindness of my heart, but clearly from a sense that this industry must be held accountable for its actions and non-actions. Most casinos that I deal with are prime examples of successful businesses that take their players and customer relationships quite seriously. And of course, there are the rogues, the incompetent, the evil casinos which consistently give this industry a bad name.
Likewise there are players who fall into the same catagory.
I am not one to be taken advantage of, and I will not tolerate players who use me and my services fraudulently. Taking care of a players' problems is a serious investment of time and resources. Most players are on the up-and-up, but there is an unscrupulous bunch who are out to scam the casinos and who are either untruthful or deceptive when it comes to dealing with me. This section is dedicated to them.
Evil Testimonials
Well, I thought you were a decent person, but I guess as a casino owner, and probably have a financial interest in many of the casinos you promote, See you in Hell Bryan: A**HOLE CASINOMEISTER IS A RIPPOFFAnonymous at Usenet
...I have your info!!don't be surpised !!! O by the way have fun with all you want everything is be documented!! why don't you contact my lawyer Mr. lisenenby lisenyat@edu.com he wants to talk to you prick!! B. Quigley AKA Cassteal
stefan78 Evil Player lies and commits forgery...
Opportunists don't bother me too much; people who take advantage of a situation to further their own cause. But this situation merits condemnation of the most serious kind. This player took advantage of the death of my friend and player advocate Julie Sidwell to reopen a case of player fraud - his fraud.
Situation: 26 February 2003, this player - we'll call him stefan78 (his handle at Casinomeister's forum) claimed he had been dealt a Royal Flush in Caribbean Stud Poker at the RTG powered Palace of Chance Casino. He was apparently dealt this Royal Flush, but for some reason his hand was "folded". By the way, this was for a progressive win of $45,229 - pretty impressive! He made a screenshot of this "win" and contacted the casino. The casino responded that there was no record of the win - that according to their records it never happened.
Well, the player contacted Julie Sidwell at Gambling Grumbles and she investigated this case. She told stefan78 that the casino was looking into his allegations, that he had won the progressive, that he had a screen shot as proof. Evidently the case was dropped...but stefan was never told why.
Julie Sidwell passed away the week before Christmas 2003, and it was only a week after her death that I received this email:
Well at Februar 26th i had a royal flush with carribean stud poker at palace of chance, i played the progressive coin. What happened next not much the game told me i folded but i did not do that Next i contacted the casino and asked what happened.. well after about 20 emails they told me they could not find it in their record and that they did not believe it happened. Well after first talking to Sara and then Robert Weiss we agreed that Julie Sidwell would investigate further. She was very kind and made me feel not alone in this situation. The last email i received from her was that it would not take any longer, she did not want to report anything untill the investigation was ended which i fully understood. Well i heard nothing for a long time and i got worried and emailed her again, unfortuantely she never responded to me again. Well this week i learnt the sad news that she has passed away. I contacted sara at sara@palaceofchance.com she told me after 5 emails that Julie dropped the case because Quote: The general feeling is that you do not deserve the money, as the meter that you claimed to have won, was never as high as the picture that yousent into us.
Well unfortunately i found a newsletter of februar 27th a day after my royal flush. In that newsletter the jackpot meter was showed and this was higher then the amount i claimed. So i proofed that they were wrong. I asked who told Julie Sidwell this lie. Since i gave them this proof 2 days ago the intensive emailing stopped. I also contacted RTG but they never responded as well. Well i am waiting for almost a year now to get paid for the progressive of 45229,94 . I have all emails send and received in record.I hope you can get in contact with RTG or Palace of chance, If you need further information i would be glad to help you. I do not believe that Julie Sidwell dropped the case without asking or telling me. I think its just another lie to get rid of me.
Thanks you
I want to get paid
He also sent me his screenshot, and you can view it here. I took a good look at this, and I couldn't spot any real indication of doctoring. I forwarded it to RTG and gave them a call. They were familiar with the case and agreed to relook at the entire situation.
At first we went over the player logs from the 25th, 26th, and 27th of February. There was no indication of any hand such as this. The player logs can show each card dealt to the dealer and player. There was no RF win. What was odd, is that the software is set up that disallows folding if and when a Royal Flush is dealt. It just can't happen.
A few other things to consider:
There is no incentive for a casino NOT to pay a progressive win. Reasons:
1. The funds to pay the progressives are pooled from all casinos who participate in this game.
2. Progressive wins are highly promoted by the casino - it's good business.
3. Progressive winners play a good portion of their winnings back into the casino - thus the casino actually makes money off of these wins.
In a nutshell, there was no reason in the world for this casino NOT to pay stefan78 if this was a legitimate win. I wrote the guy:
From: Bryan Bailey
To: Stefan78
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Pitch a Bitch (Palace of Chance)
Hi Stefan,
This is the scoop. I had RTG go over your game play for the period you specified and there wasn't any wins such as this; there wasn't anything close. Please bear in mind that RTG casinos have no problem in paying out progressive wins since it does not affect their profit margin, in fact they prefer to pay out progressives since these players will usually play back some of their winnings. In short, the casino has no incentive or motivation to not pay you.
Now, as for your screen shot. Either this was doctored and created by you, or it reflects a malfunction in the software. They are having their graphic artists and programers take a closer look at the screen shot you sent. So that's where we are on this.
Sincerely,
Bryan
He wrote back:
Hi Bryan
I understand they have no incentive motivation not to pay me if the progressive would have been in my casino account. But thats was not the case, therefore this what i believe is a malfunction will affect their profit margin because they will have to pay it from other funds. Thats why they make up excuses and telling lies and thats why i am waiting for it for over a year now. Thats the only way i can figure out why this is taking so long. But i can be wrong... Anyway thanks for helping me!
Best regards
Stefan
I had asked RTG to recreate a screenshot with the same win. If there was anything the player had to recreate was the cards, and the words "Royal Flush".
They did this...and busted. The player obviously forged the screen shot. You can compare an actual Royal Flush with the player's alleged win here.
So, in a nutshell - this is a player with no scruples. He tries to rip off a casino with lies and a forged document, and it initially fails. When he realizes that the person who was arbitrating his case had died, he jumps right up to do it again! What scum -- what a lowlife. How can people like this sleep at night or look themselves in the mirror every morning? I don't know. And for what? Because of greed.
One thing I find common amongst most evil players is that they underestimate the intellegence of some of the casinos they try to scam, and they don't realize I'll go after them just as hard as I would chase down an evil casino. This player, code name; Cassteal (as in casinos steal, I guess) posted in our forum thinking that the forum members were stupid sheep, ready to believe every word he had to say about Casino-on-net.
It was his first posting, and what he had to say was shocking:
Posted by Cassteal Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 12:53 am:
Casino on net stole $720,128.98 from me! They told me there software screwed up and it paid me $49,000 for every win and it was only supposed to pay me $1500.00 for each win! ok I told Mr. Ori D. at casino on net I told him To let me see my game history which they refuse to this day to give me I contacted Ronald Maginley Directorate of offshore Gaming he told me they are opening this case on casino on net for possible fraud charges.
I try to reach casino on net but all i get is email's saying they can not discuss this matter and that they have turn this over to there lawyers so I ask them for there lawyers email or phone # so I can discuss this with them they tell me to contact support and around I go same thing everytime with no closure I also contacted Ernest Gomez in Gibraltar where casino on net now resides he Won't do anything I think he's paid off too (casino on net) address is suite 601-701 Europort Gibraltar if anyone wants to know. I will keep all who wants know posted about what Happens to Casino On net all I know Is these people are Thiefs and should Go to jail!!all I got from casino on net was $1500.00 and it took 2 months for that if anyone wants proof of anything mention above drop me a line. thanks for listening, Brian
Listen we did, and I gave him the benefit of the doubt that there may be a problem, but in the back of my mind I was a little skeptical. I contacted Vahe Baloulian, Casino-on-net's casino manager to see if he could enlighten me on this player's problem. This is what he had to say:
Here is the story with the player. He opened an account with Casino-on-Net on February, 2003.
On the 15th of March, 2003 during a regular security check we detected discrepancies in his account. Investigation proved that due to a
malfunction, which we have a reason to believe was deliberately caused by the player, his bankroll showed a bigger amount than it should have. The player was informed of this discrepancy. We also informed him that his
account will be closed while this matter is being investigated. Five days later he contacted us threatening with a lawsuit and demanding the amount that he saw in his bankroll to be paid. The player was then contacted by our Fraud Department manager and an agreement was reached. The Player agreed to receive a settlement; he signed a disclaimer and provided us with
a copy of his ID. We sent the funds to a bank account specified by him and considered the matter settled and resolved.
Later, on the 28th of May, we received a new complaint from the player through the Directorate of Offshore Gaming where he made the same claim. We complied with the Directorate's request and provided them with all the information about this case. After review, the Directorate found that there was no merit to the claim. In August, the player contacted our new regulators in Gibraltar. Again, Gibraltar's decision was the same as
Antigua's. At this time, the player denied that he ever reached an agreement, accepted the settlement, and signed documents agreeing that the
sum we paid "shall be in full and final settlement of all and any claims and
causes of action of whatever kind against Cassava..."
This matter has now been passed to our lawyers since the player repeatedly threatened to take a legal action against us.
To address the points raised in his posting:
1. We typically have no problem sharing the game history with the player, as it is a standard feature of our software. However, in some cases when the account is closed because of suspected fraud, we, like any land-based casino, may decide to release the game history only to our regulators, if they request it. It is up to the regulators to share this information with
the player.
2. When we are threatened with a legal action, the case goes to our legal advisors. If the legal action is taken, which has never been a case although we served over 8 million players during the last 7 years, the ex-member's lawyers contact us and we put them in touch with our lawyers.
The player is well aware that he has no case. I realise that he is also aware that he has nothing to lose by complaining - may be we'll pay some
more. We will not. I think that we were overly kind in the first place. I just want to assure him that this is an absolute waste of his and our time.
If you have any questions, please let me know.
Best regards,
Vahe
He also went on with an analogy:
Basically, if we compare this to a soccer game, if the score board shows 3-1, but there were no goals during the game, the score board results don't really matter, specially if they malfunctioned "thanks" to the "winning"
team.
So I posted this, and noticed that the email address that Cassteal used for his forum account was support@slotcityUSA.com. I thought, "That's odd. Using a support email account. Perhaps this dude is a casino operator." So I checked out his site SlotcityUSA.com (screenshot) and lo and behold, there was a site that looked vaguely familiar with Blackjack Ballroom text. The casino software that could be downloaded from this site was from Gambling Federation. So apparently, this "Cassteal" who was so adamant on a casino ripping him off was the "ripper-offer".
He was busted. Gambling Federation took down his sites (there were two of them) within hours, which made this guy quite angry. He decided to vent his anger by posting this. And he changed his Whois information to reflect his frustration. What a baby. Too bad he forgot to change the whois information on Casinocashland.com
For a crook, he's not so bright. The entire episode can be read here in our forum.
Usernames: Rainfall, HOW SAFE ARE YOU, HSAY
This individual is a malicious poster who will attack those who are working our asses off helping players who need assistance when it comes to online casino complaints.
After a number of times verbally abusing Julie Sidwell of Gambling.com's Gambling Grumbles, he decided to take me on. Unfortunately for him, he picked on the wrong dude. On 18 February at Winneronline's Forum, Rainfall made the following observation and accusation:
...Bryan is no angel either. He deletes threads in the complaints forum if they speak bad about his sponsors. I read his forum at night and when i wake up the next morning they are nuked.. 2 in the past week, several over the past month. Everyone in this business is on the take.
He also decided to post in my forum as well stating:
Avoid Crown Vegas Like The PLAGUE.
They are scum.
I don't know why bryan backs them up. He'll probably delete this post and remove my access.
They stole winnings from players and wouldn't return deposits from losers. That is typical RTG. Bitches were pitched and bryan responded to none according to several people who pitched bitches. Many got nowhere with crown vegas. They'll change terms when they realize they made a term they didn't like and you won big
A guy here posted a complaint a couple days ago and bryan removed it. It seemed well mannered. He's getting the shaft for over 4k from crown vegas? Bryan please tell us why you deleted the post?
Well, to begin with. There are two things that I hate more than leaf blowers (they are on the top of my list of things to hate); liars, and thieves. And if someone feels that they can get away with lying about me in public with the intent on discrediting me, they need to brace themselves. In most cases, reputations in this industry are gauged by honesty. I do my best to be as upfront as possible to everyone, and I believe my reputation is pretty darn good.
People post their complaints at Casinomeister because they know some sort of action will occur if they do. Be it positive or negative, there is usually some sort of resolution. I welcome complaints about my sponsors, and complaints concerning them are seldom seen, and it's not because I am deleting them. It's because they don't get very many complaints.
Unlike what happens with other forums on the web, I'll make an effort to contact the casinos giving them a heads up that they've been addressed. And really, it's a great opportunity to clear problems up. Lest you forget, Casinomeister's forum is one of the oldest on the web (since June 1998) and this was one of its rudimentary purposes; to assist the player in having a voice to be heard, and to give casinos a chance to find out what the weather is like in "online casinoland".
But regardless, I couldn't delete any posts if I wanted to. It wouldn't go unnoticed. Out of 1381 users of the forum, 601 have their email notification turned on. In other words, when someone posts in the forum, up to 601 people are emailed a copy of the post. Most of these 601 individuals have the topic "Online Casino Complaints" checked. I would be busted in a most public way if I were to delete anything worthwhile or scandalous. Sinister indeed!
So to prove my point, I made two announcements in two separate sections of Casinomeister's Forum asking anyone with a copy of a post they think was deleted to please post it (deleted spam posts or double postings didn't count). No one has responded. Y'know why? BECAUSE I DIDN'T DELETE ANY POSTS!
Rainfall never retracted his malicious statements, and it went on. The issue was that Crown Vegas Casino was not honoring a bonus coupon that was found in Gambling Online Magazine. Rainfall (along with some other players) had attempted to use two separate "bonus" coupons that were posted in the January/February 2003 edition of Gambling Online Magazine. He stated:
There were no terms in the GOM ad. It's a one page ad. There are 4 coupons in the ad. None of them say new or existing users. Unfortunately i dont' have the ad anymore but i'd love to get a scan of it up. Usually i scan these type of things but i was told crown vegas rivaled inetbet for honest. That appears not to be the case.
and...
I am so convinced you won't find that the coupon in the magainze says it's a new user bonus on the advertisement that i'll gladly donate my 105.00 (what i'm out) to casinomeister if i'm wrong.
I don't believe this player ever saw the ad. I had a copy of it, scanned it, and posted it here. The terms and conditions were clearly stated. It was now obvious that Rainfall was intent on scamming the casino, and trying to manipulate me and waste my time with his bogus claims.
Rainfall attempted to defraud casinos, he lied to my visitors and to others on the web, he lied to me when I was attempting to assist. He is clearly an "evil player."
And it gets worse. When Julie Sidwell tried to assist this player, and when the outcome didn't turn to his favor, he signed her up for porno-spam to which she receives 300-400 a day--some of it from child-porno sites. This has been verified via her ISP and by matching IP addresses. I have these IP addresses as well, since I was in contact with him in March 2002 concerning a problem he had with Cowboy Casino. This man is a shallow, ungrateful, coward.
32Red Casino is a fairly new Microgaming casino that is based out of Gibraltar and is run by Ed Ware, a highly experienced executive formerly employed by the British gambling giant Ladbrokes. Everything seemed to be honky-dory until one his players, we'll call her Rhonda X., claimed to have won a jackpot at the Monkey Money Slots. He was a bit perplexed at this since it was not recorded in her playing logs. He called me on the phone stating that this was very unusual since Microgaming's software is very precise and has a number of safeguards to avoid these occurences. He also stated that this player had a screen shot to prove her win, but there seemed to be some problems. It just didn't look quite right. He called me merely to give me a heads up since he felt I would be hearing from her.
Meanwhile, Miss Rhonda X. was getting her panties tied in a knot. She made numerous threats to the casino, telling 32Red that they should just "settle" because it wasn't worth it. They had an expert look over the screen shot she sent and they deemed it a fake. They suggested that she should bring her case to a third party, namely the Online Players Association or Casinomeister. She opted NOT to come to me since she felt that I was affiliated with 32Red and would be biased towards them and against her. Little did she know, I was an OPA committee chairperson and am privy to OPA business.
But in all fairness, I do not handle OPA complaints since I do that here, and I promised not to intervene with this case since I wanted her to have an unbiased judgement. I made this clear to her, and that's what I did.
She then wrote:
I was mad and felt like I was being cheated…I have be a cop for 20 years and am now an agent in the new US Homeland Security Dept. and greatly took offense to their implications) I did later apologize…….Also what confounds me is their logic…how could anyone in a matter of minutes make up a cheat or a picture the exact likeness of the game with the jackpot winning in a matter of minutes…As a detective I can tell you I find this assumption impossible,,,
If I am not making this clear…..the events were exactly thus…..I played the game, hit spin, get 3 dancing face monkeys with the winning red bar across….then the screen freezes….I snap a picture, reboot, pop in the diskreader and send them an email and a pic from my digital camera with the 3 monkeys winning. I find it highly unlikely that anyone could pull off what they are claiming. Also to be fair to them…I was asked why I didn’t send them a picture of the whole screen…..I told them the closeup of the win I thought was obvious enough….in total I took probably 5 pictures some did not come out….Frankly I thought that timing was of the essence…so I sent the clearest picture of the win…the quality wasn’t great but clear….later I sent another….some did not come out because I had the flash on…..
And then she went on...
We can point fingers all day but it solves nothing...yes I would love the 3000...Christmas is coming....but I will get over it......As far as getting a third party involved....I can't use the casinomeister.....after checking his site again he is affiliated with you...the only unbias third party I can get involved is the newly formed National Criminal Intelligence Service (if you are in the UK) or the FBI and Homeland Security whom I am just going to work for now......I would like to avoid my first day on the job being ..."Hey will someone investigate the casino I was playing on line.... I say they owe me money they say I cheated." Yes If I wanted to make your life miserable, but it will also make mine miserable..3000 just ain't worth it......theft is another matter.
That is why I do not want third parties plus you are said to be an honest man as far as my sources.....
SO can we please take the easy way out of this ...refund the monies I deposited (we both know you can do this).....and we will both write it off as what ever....if not we will proceed from there.
I hope that this makes sense to you...I look forward to your reply
Regards,
Lt. Rhonda X.
So now she starts signing her emails off with LT. She had everyone shaking in their boots NOT. About this time, Microgaming provided a screenshot of what a REAL win would have looked like. You can compare the two here(warning: big files!) Now she claimed to have made this shot with a digital camera, which was true, the jpg was produced by a digital camera. But her logic was this, and this she repeated on a number of occassions: she made the shot moments after her win thus how could it be faked? Well, you could work for hours on a graphic, then play at a casino and feign a win, then open the image, take the shot, and send it to the casino. But what a shot!! It looks as if some teenager on his first day of Photoshop school pieced this together. I found no less than seven errors in the screenshot.
The OPA got rather upset, booted her out and banned her for life. I wrote the following email to her
Dear Rhonda X,
Like I mentioned before, I have stayed out of the discussion regarding your complaint at the OPA so that you'd have a fair review. Tortex is handling your case in a fair and impartial manner. The casino probably had no idea that I am one of the founders of the OPA and on the executive committee as well. Nevertheless in my honest opinion, what you are trying to do is just short of extortion, and your claim that you're a police officer and a member of the Homeland Security is a felony since it probably isn't true.
Your screenshot is faked, and I think this has been undoubtedly proven. Anyone with a basic skill in graphic design could try to do the same thing, but unfortunately this screen shot has quite a number of errors which are very obvious. Your claim of making the "shot" within seconds of the "win" is believable since anyone can spend a decent amount of time creating a screen shot, and then feign a win and take the photograph.
I am amazed at your boldness trying to pull this off. Apparently you think that you are dealing with some "offshore" rinky-dink casino run by some half-wits. This casino is based in Gibraltar, which is part of the UK, and licensed there as well. The owners are experienced land based casino operators who have a very high profile and reputations. The software they use is one of the finest in the business. You definitely picked the wrong casino to extort. And if you are truly a police officer as you claim to be, I would like to see some evidence of this. Please provide me with a copy of your identification, and perhaps some cases that you have been involved with in the past. Court dockets are no problem for me to look up. And if you are employed by the federal government, I would like to see some undeniable proof of that as well. Or of course, you can come clean and admit your attempt to defraud the casino. The choice is yours.
Sincerely,
Bryan
Well, I thought that after this email, she would finally come to her senses, and she did! It turned out that we are victims of her evil teenager!! She wrote back:
Dear Sirs
You have undoubtedly you have been prey of my 15 year old whom thankfully you busted. After his realization that he could not get my money back..plus me finally getting copies of bank statements has led to me finding out about his 2 months work of a gambling spee using using my accounts and credit cards that covers 4 or 5 casinos that I know about..I am sorry for the inconvenience and that you for your help ......thank you the real Ms. X
Hello my name is Rhonda X,,it seems I have a 15 year old child that has been gambling all over the internet using my paypal accounts bank accounts and credit cards.....He says he played here multiple times under multiple names.....he is a good kid usually and we have never had any trouble with him before but I am going through a divorce and if this is what they call acting out I may not survive.....he says he has not won money but I do not know,,,,,all I have is a record of what he has spent from my account what do I do...I am terribly embarrassed that I did not catch it sooner....I have no excuse..I am ashamed and do not know what we need to do to fix this situation he has spent thousands of dollars and frankly I am beside myself right now......names he could have used are Rhonda X, Rhonda X, Tim X...I also have 4 new email accounts.....my primary account is xxxx@msn.com...I now have xxx@msn.com, xxx@msn.com, xxx@msn.com...could you please check your records and email me back at xxx@msn.com....I will be doing a hard delete of all these files......again I am sorry for the problems..just tell me what to do now...sincerely. Rhonda X
Casinos I know of are Kiwi, 32red, magiclamp, bingomania, and cyberbingo
HEY CASINOS! SCAM ALERT!! I hope everyone can tell this is obviously the same person writing. The styles are identical: punctuation and spelling problems are virtually identical.
I gets even better. Further investigation reveals that this person collects Vintage Jewelry and sells forged poetry by Lizzie Borden on Ebay. I'm not kidding.
UPDATE 13 JUNE 2003 Rhonda X returns!!
I was contacted by the representatives of Desert Dollar Casino, and they were amazed that the same player was trying the same thing with them. But this time she was pretending that a "hacker" had hacked her computer while she was playing and stole her login and password. Here is a screenshot of what she presented to the casino.
She also wrote them the following:
Dear Sirs:
I don't know what is going on but it is not funny. I sent you an email
saying I liked the casino but there were some problems with the odds on the power poker and I then get
a denial of service and the following message from someone. Please see the
screen shot....now my account is empty. What is going on. Rhonda account
#DDRxxxxxxx
Do I need to get the police involved I expect to be paid the $1100.
What a loser. The casino did thorough investigation and wrote back:
Hi Rhonda
We have conducted a thorough investigation of your account as well as the
attached screenshot you claim was made while you were playing in our casino.
You seem to suggest that the funds disappeared from your account as a result
of someone who gained access to your account and password details.
We are without doubt that the screenshot was fabricated and that you are
trying to defraud us and we will therefore not entertain this issue any
further.
Should you wish to contest this, please contact me at the above address.
Regards
VP Operations
Desert Dollar
ANd then she contacts me, stating that she did a search for "Evil Rhonda" at Google, and this page came up. She tried to convince me that there is another evil Rhonda, that it was not she who had tried to defraud 32Red (and a number of others besides them). Get a life Rhonda!
In April 2002, there was an odd posting made in several forums, including Casinomeister's that went like this:
these guys stole my depsoit in the total of over $8k, now they send me
this threat because i am spreading bad press about them. this is
something else. i sure hope the gaming commission will be able to help
me out.
"If you continue with your efforts to slander and spew false information about our Casino you will receive a visit
from your local police department and the FBI Fraud Department to demonstrate the fraud you are spreading
about our casino, which as I'm sure you are aware is a Felony in the USA."
The person posting this message also contacted me requesting that I help him out. This was his statement:
i had an account with a friend account name eugene. well eugene tried to withdraw his money from the casino after meeting wagering requirments and even lost $2,100. well these people decided to shut his account down and mine claiming we were the same person. we both called the place and said we would send in any info. to prove that we are completly different people. they told the both of us that they had proof we were the same person and that was that, they were keeping all our money including the depsoits, and of course they could not get into specifics of what this proof was. total loses from depsoits was around $7,000. but of course these places sent money back to our credit cards, but kept all the unsecure money that was depsoited through a bank wire.
i know that i am probably screwed, but it would help other people if you put this casino/sportsbook on your rogue casino list, since many online gamblers read your list and this would help alot of people to avoid the big mess we are in being screwed out of $7,000 neither of us lost gambling. thanks
I contacted the casino, and this was their response:
Bryan, thanks for your email regarding the player (crudebar). Unfortunately the player has not provided you with all the information regarding this issue and has taken the liberty of cutting and pasting responses from our casino to make his case seem more interesting. The matter is currently with the Internet Gaming Commission for dispute resolution and once this is completed I would be happy to post the results on your forum and other’s he is contacting. The reference to the Felony in the USA was not regarding slander but more importantly the forged/faked identification provided by this user.
Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.
Gary Hoyle
Homebets.com
I considered the matter resolved. But the player insisted on making this public, getting cocky in the forums with statements like this: trying to be two people hey? why don't you post that little picture i
sent you of the two of us, and the driver's licnese that was sent you hey? and calling the casino operator a bastard.
The lisenses were forwarded to me and they were posted here. Due to the embarrassment of the individual, they were taken down. There were two different names of course, but an identical signature and dates of issue (the birthdates were modified). The photo images were basically the same; same cocking of the head, same expression, just retouched.
As a side note, the player contacted me with the email address crudebar@aol.com in January 2002 with the following statement:
hi, i am the advertising manager over at one click and play(www.1cnp.com). i
have heard that you have put us on your list of unrecommended casinos. could
you please tell me why we are on this list, and also what you think we will
have to do to get off this list, as i really respect your site. please
contact me back at your earliest convenice. thanks
This is quite odd for a casino to employ a 20 year old manager with an AOL address. But then, you can read more about www.1cnp.com here.
